Posts by Pete Zahut

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Family gathering before disfellowshiping

by Mattieu in

if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

Pete Zahut

When it comes to Congregation matters, it really does depend on who you are and how well connected your family is. In my Congregation, a well to do Elder's 18 year old daughter and her 19 year old fiancé were about to be DF'd for sleeping together. We were close friends with the family and knew that the daughter had done this with every boy she ever went out with yet never was disciplined by the congregation even though pretty much everyone knew about it.

This time they got the book thrown at them and the announcement of their disfellowshipment was to be made on the following Thursday. The family threw together a really fancy wedding at a country club the weekend before so that her JW Uncle Elder could give the talk and all their JW friends and relatives could attend. Talk about a farce and missing the point.

Whether it has been announced yet or not, the reason they were DF'd was because they were "wrongdoers" and supposedly a bad influence on the congregation. The announcement made no difference in their supposed "moral character". Everyone skirted around the this technicality and made a mockery of the whole purpose and intent of the practice of disfellowshipping .

P.S...these kids didn't last a year but had a child.

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One simple fact about Jesus that MATTERS . .

by nicolaou in

he had a human father.. all those doctrines of redemption, ransom and forgiveness come to nothing in the face of reality.

we need to look after each other..

Pete Zahut

Shouldn't this post have said Jesus' Mother was human since God was supposedly his father ?

Either way, if Mary was an ordinary imperfect human, Jesus would have inherited at least part of her sin and wouldn't have been able to provide a perfect life in exchange for the one Adam lost.

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They might be driving me nuts

by stillin in

the "boasting session" last night included forcing the congregation to watch that stupid witnessing cart video.

then the brother handling the part discusses what a "powerful witness" is being given each time those carts roll out into public view.. experiences: had a nice conversation with a young man.

a woman took a tract.

Pete Zahut

Oh! I forgot to mention, the brother doing the part about using the carts kept emphasizing that a publisher must QUALIFY to do this SPECIAL work.

This is not suprising since we are told we must be footstep followers of Christ and if you'll recall from your study of the Bible that even in Jesus day, only certain Apostles were qualified to man the literature carts. All others had to confine their preaching activity to placing the Watchtower and Awake magazines the old fashioned way.

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Governing Body Public Address - today!

by diamondblue1974 in

jw
friends

any ideas what this is about?

- apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

anyone heard anything about this?.

Pete Zahut

" IT'S THE WOLF ! IT'S THE WOLF ! Cried the boy one too many times.

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I've just been disfellowshipped!

by maksutov in

apparently it was announced last night.

i was not informed (for 'legal reasons'), but they phoned my dad and told him.

i understand it is due to my apostate book.

Pete Zahut

Thanks for sharing your news and the link to your book. I'm going to share it with a friend of ours who was just DF'd . I scanned through it and it covers a lot of topics that she is dealing with. Her only daughter is shunning her and she is somewhat troubled with residual worries that JW's may be right even though she intellectually knows better.

Hopefully your family will be of the more open minded variety that seem to be growing in number lately.

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They might be driving me nuts

by stillin in

the "boasting session" last night included forcing the congregation to watch that stupid witnessing cart video.

then the brother handling the part discusses what a "powerful witness" is being given each time those carts roll out into public view.. experiences: had a nice conversation with a young man.

a woman took a tract.

Pete Zahut

My Son who grew up as a JW but left a few years ago when we did, now attends the University near us and is almost finished with his Environmental Science degree. He say's there's a JW cart parked outside the main entrance to the campus every day. Apparently it's manned by people his age...usually 20 something girls and sometimes guys and there's a older man always lurking nearby trying to look inconspicuous but any former JW would recognize him as an "elder" or "servant" planted there for security reasons.

His take is that little or no attention is paid to them by the students passing by. The JW's are usually looking at their phones or talking to each other (who could blame them) and the "Brother" sometimes has his Grey Bible open but isn't really reading it.

My Son is 6'2" and a handsome, nicely dressed fellow as are his 2 study partners. He says those guys have both made comments, independent of each other about the cart to the effect "Don't those people have jobs or go to school....how can they afford to just be sitting here every day?"

He said to me " I might be imagining it Dad, because I used to be a JW, but more than once I've seen the girls look at us when we walk by and it's as if they are thinking..."those guys are worldly but they seem so clean cut and normal." He said he gets the feeling that they are looking wistfully at all the students passing by and it seems as if they are wondering if they might be wasting their time.

Not so long ago my Son was part of the popular young JW crowd himself but was really put off by the double lifers and especially the messed up JW girls he encountered. Often, because of his good looks, people assumed he was leading a double life himself and it irked him to no end to go to parties and see these kids who were passing themselves off as good JW's, drinking to ridiculous excess and using their parents antidepressants to get high, then on some later occasion, chastise him for not being baptized yet. He realizes that as a former JW who had a bad experience with it, he may be projecting his own thoughts onto the young people manning the Witnessing Carts but I'm guessing there's more truth in what he says than imagination.

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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote

by Watchtower-Free in

posted on april 19, 2015http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote

jw.org has removed their misquote of rama singh from digital versions of awake!

magazine.

Pete Zahut

I wonder what the Watchtower Legal Dept. would do if Dr.Singh wrote an article for a widely distributed science journal and used one of their quotes out of context to make it look like they were now supporting evolution?

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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote

by Watchtower-Free in

posted on april 19, 2015http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote

jw.org has removed their misquote of rama singh from digital versions of awake!

magazine.

Pete Zahut

According to popular opinion here, there have been many specific instances of past scholastic dishonesty on the part of the Watchtower. If that is the case and if Mr. Singh was serious when he made reference to this misquote as a "deliberate attempt to damage his reputation", a lawsuit might be in order. If nothing else, it would be another recent public expose' of a not-so-perfect Watchtower.

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JW.org does partial U-turn over Awake! magazine Rama Singh misquote

by Watchtower-Free in

posted on april 19, 2015http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote

jw.org has removed their misquote of rama singh from digital versions of awake!

magazine.

Pete Zahut

It would be nice if Mr. Singh would press the matter legally. It might annoy him enough to pursue the matter if he knew about how they recently dodged a big pedophile scandal by covering their tracks and not owning up to anything. Maybe with a little encouragement from us, he might consider it. If so, it would be the first time ever (to my knowledge) that the Watchtower ever admitted a "mistake" apologized for anything.

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

Pete Zahut

SUNDAY AFTERNOON 11:20 PUBLIC BIBLE DISCOURSE: Jesus Christ, World Conqueror—How and When?